Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Hi, this is Michael Ronstadt from the Nathans and Ron cast. Due to some unforeseen circumstances, we had to delay part two of the Burr settles interview until next week. But in the meantime, listen to me and Aaron create a set list. Here you go.
[00:00:27] Speaker B: This is the Nathans and Roncast. You're here with Aaron Nathans and Michael Ronstadt.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: This is another little mini episode. We wanted to share our process. We like to make set lists, but I feel like we do it more like the game of word association than anything else. Is that kind of your take on it?
[00:00:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, we're staring here with a blank sheet of paper.
We're at the Rockport, Massachusetts gig in the welcome House concert series, and we have two sets of eight songs to put together from scratch. And some of this will be the sort of thing that we have done before. And some of this will be. We'll try to mix it up a little bit. So. Okay, Michael, just put that. The first song is hello world. Why?
[00:01:12] Speaker A: It's the first track on our new album. And I just think starting with saying hello to the world is a good way to start. And the song makes you feel good.
[00:01:20] Speaker B: Okay. And then I will. So we tend to take turns. We send this back and forth. So we'll put this at one here. Hello, world. I'm gonna put just 1 minute as the second song because we just got done talking about it.
[00:01:33] Speaker A: I feel like doing the best I can.
[00:01:35] Speaker B: I wonder why.
[00:01:35] Speaker A: Okay, yeah, we just talked about that.
[00:01:37] Speaker B: We just talked about that. So. Because we're in drop d here or I'm in drop d. I'm gonna stay in drop d and I'm gonna do. Sorry, Allen.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: In this spot. It's a sad song, but it.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: What else do you have in drop d that you like to do?
[00:01:50] Speaker B: Oh, boy. I'm trying to remember. This isn't all easy, but.
[00:01:57] Speaker A: One from the BBB blues.
[00:01:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I called you up.
[00:02:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:02:01] Speaker B: But what's the name of that song?
[00:02:02] Speaker A: I can't remember.
It's about.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: It's my only leap, I think.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: My only leap. There we go.
[00:02:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: Originally I called it the Better Bureau of Business Blues. Blues. Whatever it is, you know.
[00:02:14] Speaker B: So that's five songs. Okay, so we've got fasten, fast, upbeat, slow, fast. Maybe another. Another slower one.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: You know, we'll get. We'll get to our set list, but we wanted to at least start it with you all listening. That's. You know, that's kind of.
[00:02:30] Speaker B: It's just gotten interesting.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I know.
[00:02:32] Speaker B: You're trying to end the episode. I'm saying, you know, this is the moment when. When.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: When we begin that out of drop.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: Well, one of the things we do during our set list is that we write the songs out of order. Like, we get the songs out that we know we're gonna play. So let's just put a little set to here. We usually have been ending set two was born to be wild.
[00:02:51] Speaker A: Oh, that's right.
[00:02:52] Speaker B: Are we gonna end set two with.
[00:02:53] Speaker A: Born to be wild? Born to be.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: Born to be wild.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: Come to a show if you want to hear our cover of that. It's not recorded.
[00:02:58] Speaker B: You know what we've been doing. Oh, go ahead.
[00:03:01] Speaker A: Oh, you go ahead.
[00:03:02] Speaker B: We've been doing to great effect. Twelve tone girl.
[00:03:05] Speaker A: A twelve tone girl.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: It tends to be a set one song.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: Well, let's finish with 1212 tone. No, second to last.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: Second to last. Okay, so. Okay, so twelve tone girl. Let's start set two with Doctor Jolson because it's in dad Gad.
[00:03:19] Speaker A: Okay. I like that.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: For those of you at home, Doctor Jolson's bag.
It's in dad Gad, which is an alternate tuning. And you don't want to retune between songs. So it's easier to put that at the beginning of a set.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Yeah. After Doctor Jolson's. We haven't done corners for a while.
[00:03:38] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:03:38] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: That's a good idea.
[00:03:40] Speaker A: What do we want to finish the first set with?
[00:03:43] Speaker B: I don't know yet. Let me think here. So we like to get old Joe's chair. And so let's put that after corners.
[00:03:53] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:03:54] Speaker B: Or maybe one song after. Oh, and we need to get space.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: Out of maybe space oddity here.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: Space oddity here.
[00:04:03] Speaker A: Old Joe's here.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. Old Joe and set one.
We used to use old Joe at the end of set two, but now it's kind of moved up a little bit. Space oddity.
So what haven't we.
[00:04:19] Speaker A: There's old film.
[00:04:20] Speaker B: Old film.
Do we want to continue in the. In the upbeat vein after space out of it?
[00:04:26] Speaker A: Waltzes, possibly?
[00:04:29] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:04:30] Speaker A: It's kind of upbeat. Old waltzes and skylights is a song. I wrote that. It's. It's kind of a weird waltz, I like to say. So space oddity. It's an odd waltz.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: It's an oddity. Right.
[00:04:42] Speaker A: Word association. Why not? Yeah.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: 123-4567 so we need something fast to end first set. I mean, we can do twelve tone girl after old Joe.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: Yeah. We could do eight in the first set.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: Sure. There's this carry a tune, which we can.
Let's put that here in the second set.
[00:05:05] Speaker A: Okay.
Twelve tone does end fast, so we could do something a little more. Yeah. See this is. This is us trying to figure out.
[00:05:13] Speaker B: We don't know our own songs, but it's. Oh, you know what? We've got the new songs. We haven't put those in.
[00:05:18] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Okay.
[00:05:19] Speaker B: Mallory Riley, how about after old Joe and finish with twelve tone? That works.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that.
[00:05:24] Speaker B: I don't know that I want to put Doctor Shockley this deep into the second set.
[00:05:29] Speaker A: Want to do it?
[00:05:30] Speaker B: We could do Doctor. Doctor.
[00:05:32] Speaker A: Yeah, let's do Doctor. Doctor.
[00:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, so Doctor Jolson in the second set and then Doctor Shockley. Doctor Shockley is about the guy that invented the transistor and went on to become a famous racist.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: And his name is kind of forgotten. So it's like, wow.
[00:05:48] Speaker B: Yes.
123-4567 so we're missing one song. Oh, Conchoha.
[00:05:55] Speaker A: Let's do contrahacking. Yeah.
[00:05:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:57] Speaker A: Hey, we got a set list. Everyone. Thank you for joining us on this journey.
[00:06:00] Speaker B: Well, let's read it. Let's read it.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: Okay, we're gonna start with set one with hello world. And we'll go to just 1 minute and then doing the best I can. That's drop d. So update. Sorry, Alan.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: Sorry Allen.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: My only leap. Old Joe's chair, which has a nice little sing along part. And we have a jingle for amazing photographer Mallory Riley that is going to become a song set in stone. And then we finish out with the tune twelve tone girl.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: Twelve tone girl. So set two would be Doctor Jolson's bag. Doctor Shockley's greatest trick corners the David Bowie cover. Space auditing old waltzes and skylights. Carry a tune. Kanjah and curve and born to be wild. And we'll probably beget an encore. Do our standard. All along the watch tower, all along the watchtower.
[00:06:48] Speaker A: The tune that Bob Dylan said, jimi Hendrix made it his own. You know, I think Bob Dylan covered it the way Hendrix did, even though.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: Dylan wrote the song.
[00:06:58] Speaker A: All right, folks, if you're musicians out there and this helped you create your setlist, just know know that's probably 10,000 other ways to do it and you don't have to do what we did.
[00:07:05] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:07:06] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:07:07] Speaker B: Okay, bye. Peace.
